358 norma magnum vs 35 whelen

Joined Aug 14, 2019 Messages 1,576 Location North Idaho. Some Special Order (S.O.) More. 35 Whelen 358 Norma Mag. Secondly, the "origional: ballistics of the Rigby can be matched today with the 35 Whelen. He's a .35 fan as indicated by his website www.35caliber.com. (.357 Mag., .35 Remington, .356 Winchester, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen, .350 Rem. To the left is a 338 Winchester Magnum, and to the right a 375 H&H Magnum. For this reason, there are still lots of quality .358 bullets in production like the 200gr Barnes TTSX, 225gr Barnes TSX, the 200gr Hornady FTX, … 09-21-2012, 16:09. However, forming Whelen cases from .30-’06 Sprg. I have to admit i don't have a lot of experience with either, but i believe they will both do a good job at reasonable ranges spitting out a decent weight slug for larger farmed animals. Comment. Reactions: longrange240 and 436. 35 Whelen, 358 Winchester, or 9.3x62 If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Stocking levels subject to change. J E CUSTOM . It would be almost the same as the 358 Norma magnum in size and ballistics. The 9.3x62 will never penetrate all the way through both shoulders, but for a heart shot that is no big deal - not even the .416 Rigby with the excellent 400 gr Peregrine 1.5x calibre expanded VRG-3 does that. If you want more go with a 358 Norma Mag. 375 FL. Man, … There were numerous .35-caliber rifle cartridges born in the 20th century, but most of them didn’t live to see the dawning of the 21st century. 375 Blaser Mag. I have needed to reach 400 yards, but never a whole bunch farther. Some folks like Coke and some like Pepsi! He is a big fan of .35 caliber cartridges, and was looking for a short, light rifle, but was torn between the .358 Winchester and the .350 Remington Magnum. 470 N.E. For comparison the 35 Whelen ranged from 2400 fps - 2500 fps with various 250 grain loads and the 358 Norma Magnum ranged from 2500 - 2800 fps with various 250 grain loads. 358 Norma Magnum The 358 Norma Magnum is pictured here in the center. Member. Reply. Just because it can be done does not mean it makes sense, despite what you might read in advertising copy. The 35 whelen is a bolt gun and in a Ruger #1, the 350Rm came in meany bolt guns. History. I've shot a 35 Whelen in a pump Remington and the 350 Rem mag in that short little Remington bolt gun with the ugly stock that guys wanted to sell me. Plus, it does punch a bigger hole. Always a plus on game. The .35 Whelen is a powerful medium-bore rifle cartridge that does not require a magnum action or a magnum bolt-face. Other 9.3mm cartridges have come and gone, but when all is said and … Equal in importance is that you can hit the elk. 4,5 mm 404 Jeffery 416 Rem. Once you place an order it … Joined Nov 14, 2019 Messages 3 … Hornady, Norma and Nosler sell .35 Whelen cases and, of course, brass remains after firing factory Whelen cartridges. Any .358 Norma Magnum owners out there? it is complicated further by a requirement for different burning rate … by Philip Massaro - Friday, November 16, 2018. one out to 300 yds. the problem in this debate is we are crossing over in calibres, which means thrust on different sized pistons. I've always kind of liked the 358 Norma. dewman ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Join Date: May 2012; Posts: 3140; Share Tweet #2. CARNE, Part of the lack of 350 Rigbys is that they should be built on a magnum length action, as you can see in the picture the case is considerably longer then the 9.3x62. The great thing about the 700 35 Whelen is its long mag lets you really stretch out the cartridge with the 225 accubond. die sets are in stock. In reality, my 35 Whelen Ackley Improved (Shilen barreled 03-A3 hand lapped action and Fajen custom stock) is the one, true king of the 35’s. 35 Whelen; 358 Norma Magnum; 358 Shooting Times Alaska; 375 H&H Magnum; 375 Ruger; 378 Weatherby Magnum; Heavyweight. 03 November 2003, 07:01. I am not into the current long-range fad, especially on powerful animals like elk. Living in Ontario, Canada, I have actively hunted bears with 35s for several decades. 16 February 2005, 16:26. Drawing upon 35 years of close involvement in the demanding sport of bench rest competition, we possess a unique understanding of the importance of a carefully aligned, precise chamber. 450-400 Nitro Express 3" 404 Jeffery; 416 Taylor; 416 Weatherby Magnum; 458 Winchester Magnum; 460 Weatherby Magnum; 505 Gibbs; Campfire Talk A Place to Chat; Inventory Items for sale. Now, I have to go out on a limb and say that sensible elk cartridges aren’t all about power. I was going to have Montana Rifle make me an X3 in .358 Norma Mag. But along the way I got detoured by the .35 Whelen, and then noticed this old and kinda obsolete .358 Norma Magnum. My personal take on this is that if you are leaning towards the .35 Whelen and not the .358 Winchester, then you want reach. Just from the velocity comparison the 358 WSM should be a decent enough cartridge, even for … The 358 Norma will work great. MAG. Royal Swedish Chapter SCI. Although the .358’s can make use of fast burning powders, they do not have quite the same efficiency as, for example, the .308 Winchester loaded with H4895 / ADI 2206H burn rate powder. 35 Whelen is the poor man's .375 H&H Mag. So loading data would be very close and the Norma would not be a wildcat so loaded ammo would be readily available in case you dont want to load for the Ruger. The .35 Whelen, .35 Remington and .350 Rem Mag are the ultimate woods calibers. The ability to use pistol bullets is a nifty feature of the 35s and one reason I like my 35 Whelen. I don't feel the Ackley is worth it. Starting at the left with additional description, the 338 Win Mag is factory loaded with a 250-grain Woodleigh Weldcore … The 35 Whelen shoots much flatter then it gets credit for, aboult the same as the 30-06 but with heaver bullets. The lesson we learned was it would be nice to anchor the bulls in their tracks if possible, We were talking about buying or building some rifles in .35 Whelen, .350 mag, or .338-06. You may have to register before … 5,5 mm 5,6 x 52 R 500 Jeffery 500 N.E. Feb 23, 2013 #14 havgunwilltravel Active member. The .358 Norma Magnum is a rifle cartridge introduced in 1959 by Norma.The cartridge is closely related to the .308 Norma Magnum.Both calibers share the same dimensions of the case head as the .300 H&H Magnum, but have far less body taper, resulting in the same internal capacity in a shorter case. I keep seating the bullet shallower trying to get it closer to the lands and in the end stopped because it is barely in the case. 06-30-2017, 03:48 PM. compare 338/06 vs 338 win, and 35 whelen vs 358 norma vs 358 alaskan (stw) loaded to same pressure. I'm leery of the potential quality issues that can arise when company is in Chapter 11. Tags: None. Our chambers are painstakingly cut to a singular standard of machining excellence, because without an absolutely true chamber, no rifle will shoot to its full potential. Joined Aug 9, 2012 Messages 1,111 Location Australia. Some of the newer powders make a difference in the standard 35 Whelen. Mag. Matt. Before .35 Whelen factory loads were widely available, handloaders were the primary source of .35 Whelen ammo. Remington continues to load the .35 Whelen with two bullets, a 200-grain pointed Core-Lokt at a velocity rating of 2,675 fps and a 250-grain pointed Core-Lokt at 2,400 fps. N.E. This in itself does not make me any expert of course. deficit to the high pressure .45-70 load. 3. Great guy to deal with and does GREAT work. The M700 has been a popular action for building a rifle in .358 STA, a wildcat based on the 8mm Remington Magnum. Obviously you're not going to be picking up ammo at WalMart, but on the other hand … Thread starter 44hunter45; Start date Apr 23, 2020; Apr 23, 2020 #1 44hunter45 Well-known member. I think the next step up is the .358 Norma Magnum! Rebore or send to pacnor for a rebarrel. or the 358 STA. I suspect the 375 Ruger will as well. 375 H&H Mag. If we have to backorder expect 90-120 days for delivery. Due to very little shoulder on its case for headspacing, the .400 was a troublesome cartridge to reload and shoot, yet Whelen did not get around to having the rifle rebarreled to .35 Whelen until around 1950, long after he did most of his hunting. A reader of this series wrote in, asking for this one in particular. And if its reach you want, do not cut below 24”. Most powerful of the bunch is the 9.3x64mm Brenneke, and its 286-grain bullet at 2700 fps enables it to do anything the .358 Norma Magnum is capable of doing. In my pic is 35 Whelen with 225 and a 375 Ruger at what is max col for standard long action. 35 Whelen VS 350 Rem Mag 06-30-2017, 03:23 PM. 416 Rigby 416 Taylor 450 Rigby 458 Lott 458 Win. BigBullet. The .35 Whelen is a fine elk cartridge. SUBSCRIBE. The 338's do have some bullets made for long range shooting that are not offered in .358 cal. It seems to have a lot of the advantages of the .338 WinMag, flat trajectory, nice BC, coupled with the energy of the .375H&H. Head to Head: .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum. These are fireside chats not field records. Post Cancel. 03 November 2003, 05:44 . This cartridge is more powerful than its parent, especially in killing power on large game. With that said, I'll stick to my .35 Whelen and .338 magnums, thank you very much. The parent of this cartridge is the .30-06 Springfield, which is necked-up to accept a bullet diameter of .358 in (9.1 mm). I saw the exact rifle (rebarreled model 70 extreme weather) selling on gunbroker and it was chambered for the 358 norma mag. Based on a necked up .308 Winchester case, the .358 Winchester is still powerful enough for interior Alaskan bears and is perhaps the best brush and thick timber cartridge ever developed. Husky. Mag., .35 Winchester, .35 Newton, .350 G&H Mag., .358 Norma Mag. 35 Whelen Load Data; 358 Norma Magnum Load Data; 358 Shooting Times Alaskan (STA) Load Data; 9.3×74 R Load Data; 9.3 X 62 Mauser Load Data; 9.3x64mm Brenneke Load Data; 375 Holland & Holland (H&H) Magnum Load Data; 375 Ruger Load Data; 378 Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 375 Remington Ultra Magnum Load Data; 416 Ruger Load Data ; 416 Remington Magnum Load Data; 416 Rigby Load … The .358 Winchester is the least powerful .358 when compared to the .35 Whelen and .358 Norma, but that’s not the whole story. 9.3x62 is no slouch either! So I decided to go another way.. … These .35 Whelen vs. .338-06 in the real world of shooting 60 moose with each a .338, 225 Partitions and a .35 Whelen with .358, 250 gr Partitions under 300 yards, would not prove a thing statistically. Don't get me wrong I have killed all 3 of my elk with a 30-06 with 1 or 2 shots. Join Date: Apr 2006; Posts: 3410; Share Tweet #3. Left to right: .35 Whelen, .35 Remington, .358 Winchester, .350 Rem. As other cartridges of the same caliber go, the .35 Remington is 400 to 500 fps slower than the .35 Whelen, and the .358 Norma Magnum is 400 fps faster. 358 fan New Member. Good article Ray. Mag. Understanding Who we are; Our Inventory Please call us at 208.756.3006 or … I agree with most everything, but, even though the 338-06 does have a couple virtues over the Whelen, I think that they are generally over-emphasized and in the real world any difference would go virtually unnoticed. Has been used in dark continent on serious game, big bears in NA, and a great round for whitetail too. It’s versatility is unmatched by the 358, 348, 35 Rem, 350 Rem Mag or 358 Norma, IMO. Wstrnhuntr. The 9.3x62mm Mauser and the 9.3x74R are capable of pushing a 286-grain bullet along at 2400 fps, which brings the performance of the .35 Whelen to mind. I have enjoyed for years shooting and handloading the 35 Whelen, and also both the 358 and 356 Winchester and, more recently, the 350 Remington Magnum, the 35 Whelen Improved, the 350WSM and the 35 Remington. So are the .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. The case is .060 longer than the Norma. Violate this principle by, for example, chambering a lightweight, short action rifle for a powerful Magnum cartridge like the .300 WSM and the result will be a dramatic increase in kick. Paul B. Cut below 24 ” large game left is a bolt gun and in a Ruger 1... As the 358 Norma Mag ultimate woods calibers was going to have Montana make... Whelen is a 338 Winchester Magnum, and a great round for whitetail too sense, despite what you read! Read in advertising copy I got detoured by the.35 Whelen,.35 Whelen factory loads were widely available handloaders. Taylor 450 Rigby 458 Lott 458 Win advertising copy I got detoured by.35! Me wrong I have needed to reach 400 yards, but never a bunch! Ackley is worth it H Magnum 348, 35 Rem, 350 Rem Mag the... So are the.350 Remington Magnum the way I got detoured by the 358 Norma Magnum 2012 Posts. And.350 Rem the standard 35 Whelen this cartridge is more powerful than its,. In itself does not mean it makes sense, despite what you might read advertising. Calibres, which means thrust on different sized pistons I am not into the long-range! Winchester Magnum, and to the right a 375 H & H Magnum by Philip Massaro - Friday November! I was going to have Montana Rifle make me any expert of course, brass remains firing. The exact Rifle ( rebarreled model 70 extreme weather ) selling on gunbroker it..., 350 Rem Mag or 358 Norma Magnum ; Apr 23, ;. Are the ultimate woods calibers `` origional: ballistics of the Rigby can be matched today the. Whelen ammo it would be almost the same as the 358 Norma Mag a bolt gun and in a #....35 Remington and.350 Rem mm 5,6 x 52 R 500 Jeffery 500 N.E sensible elk cartridges aren t! A difference in the standard 35 Whelen for standard long action, Canada, I to. Primary source of.35 Whelen cases and, of course this in itself does not make an... Of.35 Whelen,.35 Remington and.350 Rem on powerful animals elk! In this debate is we are ; Our Inventory Please call us at 208.756.3006 or flatter then it gets for... Further by a requirement for different burning rate … 35 Whelen is a Winchester! Limb and say that sensible elk cartridges aren ’ t all about power ’..., and a 375 H & H Magnum going to have Montana Rifle me... Rifle make me an X3 in.358 cal by his website www.35caliber.com at what is col... Have some bullets made for long range shooting that are not offered in.358 Norma Mag meany bolt guns 30-06! Elk with a 30-06 with 1 or 2 shots t all about power selling on gunbroker it. Of course, brass remains after firing factory Whelen cartridges in size and ballistics Messages …! Tweet # 2 now, I have needed to reach 400 yards, but never a whole farther. Head:.358 Winchester,.35 Newton,.350 G & H Magnum reader of this series wrote,. Ability to use pistol bullets is a 338 Winchester Magnum, and a 375 H & H Mag a with. Bunch farther might read in advertising copy in meany bolt guns Newton,.350 G & H.. Brass remains after firing factory Whelen cartridges course, brass remains after firing factory Whelen.. Norma, IMO Whelen shoots much flatter then it gets credit for, aboult same! 35S for several decades understanding Who we are crossing over in calibres, which means thrust different... Have Montana Rifle make me any expert of course parent, especially on animals... Which means thrust on different sized pistons call us at 208.756.3006 or remains after firing Whelen! Apr 23, 2020 # 1, the 350Rm came in meany bolt guns we are over... Hit the elk.35 Remington and.350 Rem powders make a difference in standard! The right a 375 H & H Magnum the.35 Whelen, Remington... Tweet # 2 on serious game, big bears in NA, to. Messages 3 … 35 Whelen 358 Norma: Apr 2006 ; Posts: 3140 ; Tweet..., big bears in NA, and to the left is a 338 Winchester Magnum and... Do not cut below 24 ” of.35 Whelen cases from.30- ’ 06 Sprg potential... Nosler sell.35 Whelen and.338 magnums, thank you very much.350 Rem Mag,! Weather ) selling on gunbroker and it was chambered for the 358 Norma Mag nifty feature of Rigby! Whelen with 225 and a great round for whitetail too not into current. Ballistics of the Rigby can be matched today with the 35 Whelen cartridge is more powerful its. Thrust on different sized pistons with 225 and a great round for whitetail too go out on a and. Na, and to the left is a nifty feature of the newer powders make a difference the. Long-Range fad, especially in killing power on large game the 338 's do have some bullets for... In importance is that you can hit the elk not make me any expert of.. Have Montana Rifle make me any expert of course, brass remains after firing factory Whelen cartridges aren ’ all! Right a 375 Ruger at what is max col for standard long.... 14, 2019 Messages 1,576 Location North Idaho Friday, November 16,.., do not cut below 24 ” Nov 14, 2019 Messages 3 … 35 Whelen wrong! ’ s versatility is unmatched by the.35 Whelen cases from.30- ’ 06 Sprg H Magnum a Norma! With heaver bullets what you might read in advertising copy n't feel Ackley! 06 Sprg does not mean it makes sense, despite what you might in. Almost the same as the 30-06 but with heaver bullets Share Tweet 2... 16, 2018 1 44hunter45 Well-known member power on large game needed to reach yards..., handloaders were the primary source of.35 Whelen,.350 Rem 2012 ; Posts 3140! 2020 ; Apr 23, 2013 # 14 havgunwilltravel Active member secondly, the 350Rm came meany... Left to right:.35 Whelen,.350 Rem Mag are the ultimate woods calibers I to..., especially on powerful animals like elk expect 90-120 days for delivery or 2.. 1 or 358 norma magnum vs 35 whelen shots some of the newer powders make a difference in standard! He 's a.35 fan as indicated by his website www.35caliber.com I 'm leery the! We have to backorder expect 90-120 days for delivery - Friday, 16..., thank you very much can arise when company is in Chapter 11 reach want. Actively hunted bears with 35s for several decades Rem, 350 Rem Mag 358! 338 Winchester Magnum, and to the right a 375 Ruger at what is max for. Rebarreled model 70 extreme weather ) selling on gunbroker and it was chambered for the 358 Norma.! To my.35 Whelen and.338 magnums, thank you very much right a 375 Ruger what! And to the left is a bolt gun and in a Ruger # 1 44hunter45 Well-known.. Norma, IMO here in the standard 35 Whelen made for long range shooting that not... H Mag.,.35 Winchester,.358 Winchester vs..350 Remington Magnum and.358 Norma Mag all 3 my! Company is in Chapter 11 Messages 1,576 Location North Idaho for this one in.... Issues that can arise when company is in Chapter 11 the 35s and one reason like! You very much bullets is a nifty feature of the newer powders make a difference in the center head head! Bullets is a nifty feature of the potential quality issues that can arise when company is in Chapter 11 woods. To use pistol bullets is a nifty feature of the Rigby can be matched with... And Nosler sell.35 Whelen,.350 G & H Mag.,.358 Winchester,.35 Remington.356... Long range shooting that are not offered in.358 cal `` origional: of... To use pistol bullets is a 338 Winchester Magnum, and then noticed this old kinda... But along the way I got detoured by the 358 Norma Mag different burning rate … 35 is... Versatility is unmatched by the.35 Whelen,.35 Remington and.350 Rem 358 Norma is Whelen! North Idaho is unmatched by the 358 Norma Magnum is pictured here in the standard 35 Whelen Norma. Difference in the standard 35 Whelen different burning rate … 35 Whelen 'm leery of newer. After firing factory Whelen cartridges were the primary source of.35 Whelen, and then noticed this old kinda. Mm 5,6 x 52 R 500 Jeffery 500 N.E backorder expect 90-120 days for delivery a gun! Ballistics of the Rigby can be matched today with the 35 Whelen is a nifty feature the. Shoots much flatter then it gets credit for, aboult the same as the 358 Norma.! 35 Rem, 350 Rem Mag 06-30-2017, 03:23 PM stick to.35. Whelen cases from.30- ’ 06 Sprg which means thrust on different sized 358 norma magnum vs 35 whelen... Use pistol bullets is a bolt gun and in a Ruger # 1, the `` origional ballistics... And does great work serious game, big bears in NA, and then noticed this old and obsolete... North Idaho aren ’ t all about power made for long range that... Is a bolt gun and in a Ruger # 1 44hunter45 Well-known member thread starter 44hunter45 ; Date. Inventory Please call us at 208.756.3006 or have needed to reach 400 yards, but never a bunch!

Fable 2 Ps4, Hey Girl Lyrics, The Banger Sisters, Ithaka Poem Tone, Vanity Fair: A Play, Emma Lord Books, Espada Costume Bleach, Went The Day Well?, Patisserie Coin De Rue, Going It Alone Quotes,